Kanye West’s stunt at the VMA’s last night will be added to the most memorable moments in VMA history. Fans and celebs are still talking about how the a-hole stole poor Taylor Swift’s thunder away and made her cry.

Ryan Seacrest asked VMA host Russell Brand and gossip queen Perez Hilton, who was sitting front row, how shocked they were about the incident.

Click here to hear Perez Hilton’s interview and how he thought that at first the stunt was planned. Then click here to hear Russell Brand’s interview who says that we shouldn’t be so hard on Kanye, “that he just got wrapped up in a moment. People are people, we all have done something we are not proud of, he apologized, we should forgive him.”